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Subject: Strange categories
Posted: 24/Jun/2011 at 2:40pm

If is useful from a classification point of view to try to use the most appropriate heading for expenditure. For a school purchase the ProClass top heading of ‘Education’ is a good place to start. A PA system is audio so the second level of ‘Audio Visual’ is appropriate too. I don’t see how ‘Facilities Management/‘Design & Photography’ and ‘Facilities Management/Security’ can be connected in these circumstances? They are neither educational or audio related.

]]> Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:40:05 +0000 http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=27&PID=103#103 ProClass Discussion & Suggestions : Strange categories http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=27&PID=102#102 Author: HPD
Subject: Strange categories
Posted: 24/Jun/2011 at 2:02pm

it's not something I would have classed under 'Education' as the main category - I would have put it in 'Facilities & managed svs' (create sub: - Audio visual); the reason why is because 'design & photography' and 'CCTV' are in there too.
 
I don't know about other but the current doesn't make logical sense in my head, but that could just be me....
 
 
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Subject: Strange categories
Posted: 23/Jun/2011 at 11:09am

We think that a PA system should be classified as:
 
171111/Education/Audio Visual
 
]]> Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:09:05 +0000 http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=27&PID=101#101 ProClass Discussion & Suggestions : Strange categories http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=27&PID=100#100 Author: HPD
Subject: Strange categories
Posted: 23/Jun/2011 at 10:48am

another one:
a school asked for a PA system, I have classed it in
291110Arts & Leisure ServicesProfessional Musical Instruments
 
However this category really should say: Professional Musical Instruments & Equipment
 
Just a thought though....
]]> Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:48:20 +0000 http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=27&PID=100#100 ProClass Discussion & Suggestions : Strange categories http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=27&PID=99#99 Author: tkashmore
Subject: Strange categories
Posted: 16/Jun/2011 at 11:14am

Thanks for the interesting question.

We agree that chemicals should not be under Horticulture, we also think that ‘Swimming Pools’ should be in the classification, under Sports, so propose that:

‘Sports & Playground Equipment & Maintenance’ is changed to:

‘Sports, Playground Equipment & Swimming Pools & Maintenance’

With ‘Swimming Pool Equipment’ & Swimming Poole Maintenance’ (products & service) added. The chemicals could go under maintenance products.

We further think that ‘Horticultural/Weed Control’ should be changed to:

‘Horticultural/Treatments/Weed Control’ and ‘Horticultural/Treatments/Fertilizers’ should be added.

This means we would remove ‘Chemicals’ from ‘Horticultural’ altogether but are not sure if it should go elsewhere?

Currently we think that:

‘Environmental Services/Technical Equipment/Laboratory’

‘Environmental Services/Technical Equipment/Measuring’

‘Environmental Services/Technical Equipment/Testing’

probably covers calibration etc. reasonably well, although we invite other opinions.

The next version of ProClass which will be vC11.1 should released in November this year so these changes will take effect then, if they are agreed.

 

]]> Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:14:03 +0000 http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=27&PID=99#99 ProClass Discussion & Suggestions : Strange categories http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=27&PID=98#98 Author: HPD
Subject: Strange categories
Posted: 15/Jun/2011 at 2:59pm

Working for a council brings up strange ones....
 
Chemicals for the local swimming pool -> chemicals can only be put in 2410000 - Horticultural - Chemicals. Which I find, to be honest, as bit odd
 
Chemicals are not only used in horticultural....
 
another one: calibration of weights and measures for trading standards -> I can only guess but I've put it in 181811 - Environmental Svs, Technical Equipment, Measuring
 
I do miss a category which covers calibration; either of weights and measures or even equipment (Fluke meters, decibel meters, etc)
 
Cheers
HPD
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Subject: Government bodies
Posted: 08/Jun/2011 at 4:11pm

Thank you it definitely makes the discussion internally a lot easier.
 
We are setting up product code linked to proclass; so wehn someone buys a product/service from a supplier they have to include a product code to ensure the correct proclass by line item.
]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:11:43 +0000 http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=26&PID=97#97 ProClass Discussion & Suggestions : Government bodies http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=26&PID=96#96 Author: tkashmore
Subject: Government bodies
Posted: 08/Jun/2011 at 3:17pm

The ProClass headings are for classifying the product or service being purchased. They are not meant for classifying the supplier or the council department it is being purchased for. Therefore if the service is training, the correct ProClass heading is 261500/Human Resources/Training & Conferences

This can be confusing when suppliers are classified by ProClass in a contracts database, but obviously some suppliers supply many types of products and services and need to be given a main classification if the system only allows one heading. However when spend is being classified it is always based on the product or service is being purchased.

 

]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:17:06 +0000 http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=26&PID=96#96 ProClass Discussion & Suggestions : Government bodies http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=26&PID=95#95 Author: HPD
Subject: Government bodies
Posted: 08/Jun/2011 at 1:35pm

Hi
 
just joined
 
this morning I had a request to do the proclass coding for the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA)
 
We had a little discussion here at the Council and could not find any proclass for this, BUT for this particular request it was regarding Training so (for now) this agency is under 170000 Education
 
Is or should there be a classification level for Government services?
 
The main question that arises here frequently is how should we class?
1) nature of the company
2) product(s)/service(s) the company provides
3) destination within Council (department)
 
Cheers
]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:35:39 +0000 http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=26&PID=95#95 ProClass Discussion & Suggestions : ProClass vC10.2 draft http://forum.proclass.org.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=25&PID=94#94 Author: Jeff
Subject: ProClass vC10.2 draft
Posted: 03/Nov/2010 at 10:03am

The draft of ProClass vC10.2 has now been finalised and presented to the ProClass Board for approval.  The hierarchy and a summary of changes/additions may be downloaded here.

Any comments are welcome.
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